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Spookymufu wrote:as with anything else, you NEVER want to be confrontational when deling with cops, you never know if you have a good one or a scared child with a inferiority complex in a police uniform. So, always be polite, show respect (you'll usually get respect back) and dont go looking for trouble. I dont condone those people on youtube that go out looking to get cops all riled up just to see how far it will go, not at all. But you really do need to know your rights and what the cops can and cannot do.
If you get pulled over for doing something wrong or not doing it, take the ticket, be polite, record the interaction and fight it in court, no reason to give the cop a hard time over it.

Kolchak, I'll ignore the jab about the Air Force, and I assume you have never been on a AF base so let me give you some info, on most AFBs there are a large population of non-military personnel that dont fall under the UCMJ and must be treated as any other civilian, I'll admit tho that 80% of the time you are dealing with a person with A LOT to loose if they get busted, a good job, a security clearance, etc but dont be fooled, many of them like to dish out the same <deleted> with the SPs as they do with civilian police, actually, in some cases probably more. Dont forget about all the "wild cards" that show up for air shows and special open house events that wouldnt normally be on the base.....those are the worse.

Andybev01 wrote:This is for both of you:

Kolchak wrote:

Spookymufu wrote:as with anything else, you NEVER want to be confrontational when deling with cops, you never know if you have a good one or a scared child with a inferiority complex in a police uniform. So, always be polite, show respect (you'll usually get respect back) and dont go looking for trouble. I dont condone those people on youtube that go out looking to get cops all riled up just to see how far it will go, not at all. But you really do need to know your rights and what the cops can and cannot do.
If you get pulled over for doing something wrong or not doing it, take the ticket, be polite, record the interaction and fight it in court, no reason to give the cop a hard time over it.

Kolchak, I'll ignore the jab about the Air Force, and I assume you have never been on a AF base so let me give you some info, on most AFBs there are a large population of non-military personnel that dont fall under the UCMJ and must be treated as any other civilian, I'll admit tho that 80% of the time you are dealing with a person with A LOT to loose if they get busted, a good job, a security clearance, etc but dont be fooled, many of them like to dish out the same <deleted> with the SPs as they do with civilian police, actually, in some cases probably more. Dont forget about all the "wild cards" that show up for air shows and special open house events that wouldnt normally be on the base.....those are the worse.

Knowing your rights is always a good thing. Just make sure you actually do know your rights. But be prepared, if you are wrong to find yourself sitting in the back of a patrol car with an obstruction charge looking at you. You want to play lawyer? Fine. Just make sure you are right AND you can prove it.

I was once stopped by a young officer in another jurisdiction for running a stop sign. I had not run the stop sign. He said I did and became quite belligerent. I never showed him my ID, or told him who I was. I just showed my license and insurance as required by law. Above all I kept my cool.

After his little tirade I went to the station and spoke with his chief, who knew me. The kid was called in from patrol and was adamant I had run the stop sign, the chief said okay, then you can pass a polygraph and prove it. Seems I wasn't the first to complain on the boy. The kid became more irate and began yelling at the chief. The chief suspended him on the spot, he was later terminated and his certification was revoked. Last I heard, he was working as a truck driver. There is a time and place for everything. Letting yourself go and acting the fool, does you no good at the end of the day.


Son. Not only have I been on an air force base, I "captured" Myrtle Beach and Homestead AFBs when they were still active bases and "killed" many SP's. I was with 2/502, Delta Dragons, 101st Airborne 1982-1986. We played aggressors to the boys in the pretty berets. Maybe if they'd taken more care of their security measures than blousing their boots, they might have not looked so bad. Furthermore, my father was in the old army air corps and later the air force when it became a became a separate branch. He flew the Hump in the CBI with 1st Air Commando. My brother served as an ATC at Tan san Nhut AB in Saigon, 1969-1970.

Since leaving active service I have trained SP's, today they are called Security Forces, from the Georgia, Florida and South Carolina air guard. Some are really good and others are the scared child you refer too. They're pretty good at dishing it out but pout like a spoiled children when the mess up. It was airmen like that who caused the air force not to rely on their own people but bring in armored cavalry and light infantry units to secure some of the NATO air bases in forward operating areas during the troubles in Bosnia, Croatia and other parts of the former Yugoslavia.

I spent most of 2006 and 2007 in Afghanistan training local security and law enforcement. On October 27, 2007 I was ambushed while on convoy duty and spent almost a month in a coma and had to learn to walk all over again. So you see, Halloween has a very special significance for me.

I have both a BA and an MA in Criminology and am licensed to give polygraph's in Georgia and Florida. I have taught and taken classes at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynnco Georgia. I have taught tactical operations at both the state and local level and am past Vice President of the Georgia Tactical Officers Association.

I have been classified as an expert trial witness on firearms, police tactical issues and the occult and paranormal in criminal cases. If you find stuff on the internet dealing with satanic and voodoo crimes, you might find my real name.

Put simply. I've been. I've done that. And I have a whole closet full of T-shirts.

Spookymufu wrote:well......thats all very impressive........

means nothing tho if you violate peoples constitutional rights in course of your duties.

Hopefully you're not one of those and you're one of the good ones., I'll assume you are since I dont know you personally

oh, and something you said earlier about the media not getting the whole story, or not reporting the whole story, I agree, a lot of times there is more to the incident then whats initially reported and most level headed people know that but there are always the most vocal groups that want the cops head on a platter before they know what exactly happened.

NeverMore wrote:

Kolchak wrote:For the record. The UCMJ is much easier to enforce than civilian law enforcement.

Ahhh... but as Jack Reacher said, everyone he dealt with was a trained killer.

Kolchak wrote:Since you had been in the air force I had to use language you would understand. Hence the need to guide you step by step.

And the word is winded.

MauEvig wrote: Anytime I see the word fluffy I think of that comedian Gabriel Iglesias.